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chewing his face to pieces, moving it all the time, as though he couldn't bear this.

I was to see that look on his face many times in the future, because he could not tolerate what he called “poppycock discussions” - discussions about the law and the applications of law. He was a man of action. Here was something he'd thought of that could be acted on, and he wanted to get to acting. He threw in several times dramatically when the lawyers would be discussing something, “You don't seem to realize that people in this country are starving. You don't seem to realize that industry has gone to pot. You don't seem to realize that there isn't any industry in this country unless we stimulate it, unless we start it. You don't seem to realize that these things are important and that this law stuff doesn't matter. You're just talking about things that are of no account. We've got to do this.”

So I stayed through that meeting. I tried to talk to people afterwards, after the meeting broke up, to see what they all thought. I came to the conclusion that it was pretty confused.

I went to see Wagner and Meyer Jacobstein the next day. I found them full of jealousy and animosity about this work. They had the attitude, “Who in the world are these people?”, because, after all, Wagner was a Senator