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They finally got the employer to assemble two or three of the officers of the company and they met with them. Then Wagner made his little speech and made a suggestion, “Now, Mr. Jones, I think we should send for a committee of your workers in the union that has formed here.”

Mr. Jones hit the ceiling and said he wouldn't do it. They went on with this argument between Wagner and the employer for the whole afternoon, getting more and more bitter. After all, Wagner was a Senator and wasn't used to being treated like that. The other men on the Board who were employers thought that the Senator must know more about the law than they did, so they joined right in with him. They found an employer that just wasn't going to budge.

They came back that night and Wagner was just breathing wrath. I never saw anybody so mad in my life. That's the reason that we have a National Labor Relations Act. He got mad then. As weeks went on, that same kind of a situation developed over and over again. An employer refused to do what Wagner's Board told him to do, or advised him to do. When it came to sitting down with a union, he just wouldn't do it. Wagner began saying within six weeks, “We've got to have a law about this. We've got to have a law that requires them to deal with the union in collective bargaining. What can you do? I never heard of such a thing as this. Just