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imagine, they won't even talk with the union.”

Of course, the only strikes that Wagner knew previously anything about were strikes in New York City where because of the prevalence of the Jewish unions, the Jewish employers' associations, and the Brandeis settlement of the great strike about the time of the First World War, which they settled by the protocol, he was under the impression that all employers meet with their workers. You may not settle, but you meet. He had never met this idea that it was wrong to work with the union. He got very mad as this happened over and over again and he began to think, “Got to have a law. Got to have a law. Got to have a law.” I may say that I heard other people repeat it. These employer groups that went out with him were just as mad as he was. They were really furious, because they were being flouted.

This episode in Virginia, along with a number of other episodes in which Senator Wagner had suggested that the employers meet with the unions and the employers refused to, brought Senator Wagner to a position where he was saying to everybody that there ought to be a law to force the employers to meet with the unions.

I tried to say to him, “This is an educational process that we must go through. It's just possible that no law could make them do it. A bargain to make a bargain