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no rumpuses, although they were walking the streets. “They are forced out. They are afraid to go by the picket line. They are afraid to go in. They're being terrorized. They do not wish to belong to the union. We know they don't wish to belong to the union.”

This went on for an entire day. Toward the middle of the afternoon Swope said, “Well, how do you know they don't want to belong to the union?”

“We know it.”

“How can you possibly tell?”

“Oh, we just know they don't wish to. They have told us so. They don't want to belong to the union. Every person, as we employ them, tells us they don't want to belong to the union.”

Swope said, “When you put this proposition up that these people don't wish to belong to the union, suppose we find out in a systematic way whether they want to or not. Why don't we agree to 1st them take a vote - a secret vote - to see how many of them want to belong to the union and how many don't? I assure you that if a vast majority doesn't want to belong to the union as you say they don't, we will take that into consideration and that will certainly be held to relieve you of any necessity of dealing with a small minority. Let us take a vote.”