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doesn't respond to it, what's the President going to do?”

“He can seize it!”

“How can he size it?”

“What have we got an Army for? The President declares an emergency and the seizes it.”

That all went through his mind. At any rate, he was talking about, “The President shall by proclamation declare that there will be a code in the coal industry.” He had it all written out.

I would say, “Now, Hugh, let's try it another way. In the first place, I'm almost certain that the President won't sign a proclamation of that sort.” He hadn't completely lost his sense of humor, which he did have. His sense of humor was really a sense of the ridiculous rather than a sense of humor. “Let's see if we can't processed to have the President persuade them to do it.” That satisfied him.

So we got the President to invite these coal operators to the White House one evening. I canvassed around among them and used Charlie O'Neill a great deal as an informer. I discovered that most of them were not as ardent for a code as they had been and that most of them were thinking in terms of postponing the code indefinitely.

I remember getting Josephine Roche, who then was