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riding high as a moral character and was the absolute sole owner of the Rocky Mountain Fuel Company. The Rocky Mountain Fuel Company was a good coal mine in Colorado which Josephine Roche's father had owned. I think he had had partners, but was the principal owner. The Colorado Fuel and Iron Company, which was a Rockeieller enterprise, had practically put them out of business, as it had certain other mines in Colorado. A combination of various circumstances had taken place so that when Josephine's father died and she inherited the property, or inherited his share, way back in the twenties, she found his partners very anxious to unload. The company was very nearly wrecked. She made a study of it. By this time she's been East to school, had graduated from Vassar, went to Columbia University, had studied economics and other social subjects as a graduate student at Columbia. That was where I met her, as a matter of fact. She was in the same seminar of Professor Seligman's that I was in and I became acquainted with her way back then. She had floated around and had looked into social work. She had lived at Greenwich House. She had done social work and had a social point of view. She knew what a labor union was and had met labor leaders. Also she came from Denver, Colorado. I don't remember what she had told me about her father, but I think he was just a typical Denver business man, exploiter and operator.