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I apologized to William Green. I knew I had to take a second think. Alex Sachs came over and I told him the situation. He was awfully sorry because he thought they would do it. Nobody was asking them to deal with the union and it was just a kind of pro forma. It had never occurred to me that this might happen. I don't think that had occurred to Green either, but he wasn't surprised. I still think that if that lawyer hadn't been there they might have. I made an appeal to their moral natures, to their social manners, to everything. I think if this lawyer hadn't been there, at least some of them might have been sensible and let it go, saying, “Well, all right.”

Anyway, that being the case, we gave it a second think. We decided it was not worthwhile to try to put William Green on the platform the day of the public hearing of the code to speak for labor's interest in this code, because it would just bring the same issue up all over again, only it would bring it out in public. It would be even more embarrassing. So Alex said, “I think you'll have to do it yourself.”

I said, “I think you're right, but we'll ask Johnson,” which we did.

He said, “Sure.”

Then I began to think, “This has got to be staged. This has got to be dramatized. The men in the steel districts