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However, she had that extraordinary quality which those who don't like her say is Hungarian. She's a Hungarian Jew and people will say, “That's just like the Hungarians. They're pushers.” There are great differences of opinions between groups of Jews about each other.
I didn't observe her rise, because I didn't know her and there wasn't anything to observe. But as you look back on it you see that she rose rather quickly in the NRA from being a general clerical worker way down the line somewhere to being up pretty near the two or three people at the top and servicing them for one thing or another. So there she was close to the top, but servicing these people. Perhaps there were three people at the top and she was doing things for them, or doing clerical work for them, or something.
I've forgotten now who was the man who was selected to be the head of the NRA in New York, but he wasn't much good and he collapsed, either due to his own inadequacies or to the forces against him. In a few months he collapsed and then the Number 2 man moved up. The Number 2 man either had a lot of enemies and was pulled out, or he was so good that Johnson needed him somewhere else. Anyhow the Number 3 man moved up and was fairly weak. By this time he had been accustomed to having Mrs. Rosenberg close to him and he took her right along with him. He had been accustomed to being helped by her.
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