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We got this little commission all fixed up and then we announced it. It was greeted with great satisfaction. Everybody thought that that was a very intelligent thing for the President to do - “It's a good thing. Send somebody over to study. These are sober men. Let them go and study the English system and perhaps we can find some enlightenment that will enable us to have the kind of law that the English have and keep people from striking.”

Gerard Swope came down to see me and talked it all over before he went. I knew him very well and he said, “What is there in this? What is this going to be? I want to ask you one thing - Is it a junket? If it is, I'll have nothing whatever to do with it. Is this being fixed up to give a lot of people a ride to Europe and get them out of the way?”

I said, “Absolutely no. That I promise you. Here are the people on it. There isn't anyone of these people who is going to go for a ride. You know that. Will Davis is not going to go for any ride.”

“I know that,” he said, “I know Will Davis. He's a busy man and he's giving up time to go.”

“You know Charlie Hook?”

“Yes, Charlie Hook can't afford to go for a ride.”

“Bob Watt?”

“Of course, I know who he is, but any labor leader