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can go for a ride.”

I said, “Yes, but you've got to have the labor leaders.”

“Well, Bob Watt's the best there is. This is absolutely no junket? We're really going to find out something?”

I promised him, “Yes, absolutely.”

“Who's going from the Labor Department?”

I said, “We'll get a man named W. Ellis Chalmers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. He's been in Geneva for a year as our representative there. He's thoroughly familiar with the English law, the Swedish law and all the laws of other countries, because in the International Labor Organization it's important for the American representative to know those things. So he knows those things and what's more he knows the outfit. He knows Merton Evans. He knows Sir Frederick Leggett.” Merton Evans was a very important person in the Labour Ministry. Sir Frederick Leggett had been in the Ministry of Labour and had been assigned to be the head of this Trial Board of Adjustment that they set up under this English law. I said, “Chalmers knows these people and has met them in Geneva. He can very quickly make the arrangements. You won't have to take a long period of time to get used to everything. I'll have Chalmers get there a week before you do. I'll write myself to these





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