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The conversation was all about that sort of thing.

One could see that this was very tiring to Mrs. Rosenberg. She didn't think this was interesting at all. I'll never forget this because it was so mortifying to all hands. She finally rose up and said, “Gentlemen, it seems to me we're wasting a lot of time on this.” Those were her words as she had just arrived. She went on, “As a matter of fact, it might interest you that I've looked into this matter very deeply. It might interest you to know that this act in England was passed in the year ‘so-and-so' and it provides thus and so.' There's board, a committee, an appeals court. It goes like ‘this and this and this.' It might interest you to know that. I thought I would just tell you that immediately so that we wouldn't waste all this time apportioning out who to see. I had a digest prepared for me so that we might get to work at once.” It was Lubin's digest, which he had given to every one of them, and they knew it. All he'd done was to mail to her ship the same thing he'd mailed to everybody else. It was just a briefing, and she was by way of giving them that information.

I never will forget how those men looked. They looked mortified. They looked embarrassed. There wasn't one of them who looked revengeful or humorous at all. They just





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