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me one evening. It was Barney Baruch speaking from New York. It was the pleasantest kind of conversation - was I doing well? Was everything all right? How was our delegation making out? He showed an unusual interest as to how our delegation was making out at the ILO. There was no reason he should call me to know how the ILO delegation was making out. That wasn't one of his special lines of endeavor. I knew Baruch, but I didn't go to him for advice. So far as I know, I had never up to that time called him up and consulted him about anything. I had had a good many contacts with him, but he wasn't what I would call one of my advisers. I had asked him to help me out with Walter Chrysler once or twice and he did. I asked his opinion occasionally about a high-binder, or a man I wasn't certain of, in the employer group to ask what kind of a man he was, if he was a man you could really tell the truth to, or did he have the temper and wind of a shorn lamb. But I wasn't in the custom of asking Baruch's advice, or he mine. So I knew he had something else up his sleeve.

He said, “How's this commission you've sent to England to look into the labor laws?”

I said, “Oh, that's all right. We've got a very good commission. It's in first-class shape. We've got William Hammatt Davis as the head of it, you know. Gerard Swope's





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