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me about it before and you're supposed to be Johnson's sponsor.”

But Chrysler came up. I remember I went out and walked up and down the driveway with him. Right away he opened up the subject himself. He said, “How's Hugh Johnson making out?”

I said, “Well, all right, I guess. This is a pretty rough time, but the codes have been on the whole pretty well adopted. They're very popular. There's been general public acceptance and business is better. Isn't it, Mr. Chrysler?”

“Sure, it's better, but I thought Hugh'd been drinking again.”

I said, “Well, possibly.”

He said, “That's bad. That's bad. That's Hugh's trouble.” Apparently Chrysler knew all about it. “He can't stay there. He'll mess himself all up.”

Then, he having opened the subject, I said to him, “Well, Mr. Chrysler, why don't you get him right now if you think he has reached the end of his rope and offer him something very good, particularly something to go to Europe, or anywhere far away, opening up something new for you, making a report, or some such thing.”

He said, “Oh no, I couldn't do that. I could never





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