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rest of the group in the next day. At that time I discovered something that I later used frequently - the wisdom and necessity of giving him an outline he could remember. If I put an outline of one, two, threes, in his hand, he'd remember it. So I put an outline of this bill in his hand. I had told him all about it the day before, but with this outline he could talk intelligently, because the outline served to bring into his mind clearly what we had said the day before.

I suppose we spent about two hours with him. He questioned Green about it. Green thought it was, “Marvelous, Mr. President. Marvelous. I have not been informed about this whole matter before. Miss Perkins only told me about the one part that relates to the opportunities of labor. I think that's good and right, and I think the whole scheme is marvelous.”

The President was greatly pleased with this. One after another they expressed a good deal of enthusiasm for it. He pinned them down on this anti-trust business. I seem to think that Homer Cummings or somebody from the Attorney General's office was there. They'd been all over this and thought it was right. At this point we had found a way out of the restrictions of the anti-trust act. They were set aside by legislation, which the Attorney General