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you'll tell me what Wagner says.”

I said, “You've got to decide it right now, Mr. President. Here on this beautiful sunshiny afternoon we have to decide if we shall put it in or leave it out. If we leave it out, I know we'll not get public works this year. If we don't get it this year, it'll be too late to do any good.”

He asked a few questions. He new the argument. Then he asked Charlie some questions. I thought at the moment that he was stalling, and I think he was in a way stalling for time. Also, he wanted to hear what kind of a fellow Charlie Wyzanski was. After all, he was my legal counsel. He was just fine. He answered them briefly, clearly, pleasantly, persuasively. He was very good. He pointed out how the administration of this bill would be.

The President then said, “Well, shouldn't it all be administered by the same person?”

Wyzanski answered, “In the draft of the bill that we had previously agreed on, Mr. President, we have not indicated who shall enforce what. There is to be a National Recovery Administration appointed by you. You appoint the man and you give him what duties you think best. You can appoint a man to administer both parts of it, or you can divide administration into two parts. You can put the date of effectiveness of one part different from the date of