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had said to Stettinius. He said, “Well, you know, I have retired from the presidency of the steel company. I'm only the Chairman of the Board. Anything that has to do with the running of the steel company belongs to Ed Stettinius. Bill Irwin, of course, is an experienced man. They will decide how things are done on the operating side. Of course, I recognize that lots of things have happened, many things may be done that haven't been done in the past.”

He was solemn but pleasant. Myron Taylor's a solemn person. You don't make jokes with him the way you do with Ed Stettinius. I don't think he has joked much. Although I've come to know him a good deal better as the years have gone by, and although he's a very good man, a very reliable man, a very honorable man, he's not a witty man or a humorous man. Things don't look funny to him at all. He tends to take himself a little seriously. So he didn't make any jokes about it or take it easy. It was still one of the problems of life to him.

At any rate, he said that he thought that whatever Stettinius did was all right. He said that I understood, of course, didn't I, that it would be absolutely impossible for any operating manager of anything to attempt to force