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All you have to agree to is the policy.” He grumbled and grumbled. “We don't want to change our labor policy.” We went over and over that all the time. In the end it came down to practically the same old thing as to what a formula might be. But by this time the principal thing had come to be a situation where they would agree that they would agree. They had to do something to give assurances that they would mee a committee so that the thousands and thousands of men who were now on strike could see something that would make them believe Lewis and Hillman when they said that there would be a settlement, that the employers would negotiate. There had to be evidence that some high officer of General Motors would receive John Lewis, Sidney Hillman, and anybody they chose to bring with them, in his office in Detroit. The men could see that. Photographs could be taken of it. It would convince the men that their leaders were not fooling them and selling them down the river. I tried to explain to loan that the men didn't just automatically trust these union leaders. They were now so worked up that they would have to have some evidence before they trusted anyone.