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about this matter. Mr. Sloan has never consulted me about this matter.” He made it darned embarrassing for them.

I have another angle to this story. I don't know how long it was, but it was a week at least, if not more, before an arrangement was made to ask the men to leave the plant. Then it was Governor Murphy who did it. It was Governor Murphy who gave his personal word to them that the General Motors Company would negotiate, and was, as a matter of fact, in the preliminary negotiations at this time. It was Governor Murphy who did it in the end, and they were not ordered out by the union, because, I think, Lewis was annoyed.

But there was another element that entered into it which made me very nervous at the time - when I say “nervous,” I mean uneasy. In New England “nervous” is a kind of colloquialism, meaning uneasy. It doesn't mean a nerve illness. That was the fact that the CIO had taken on a man named Lee Pressman as counsel. He was out ther with Lewis and Hillman. There was, of course, nothing in the world to be said against them having their counsel with them, but it was unusual. Labor leaders don't usually go around with their counsel. That's the last thing they want. They deal directly. I never saw John L. Lewis but twice bring in counsel. Each time