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was. I don't know whether it was right or fair or not, but I have looked Pressman up. He's absolutely all right. There was nothing discreditable in his situation in the Department of Agriculture.”

I said, “You're in a position to know more about this than I am, of course, but did it ever strike you, Hillman, that there was just a tinge of the Communist in him?”

“Oh no. Now, Madam Secretary, you know that I have dealt with Communists. You know I've had Communists in my own union and have had to get rid of them. You know that I know what they're like, what their ideas are. I know how to spot them. I know there's nothing of the sort here.”

“Well,”I said, “that's very reassuring if you know it. But for heaven's sake keep your eye on it. He's just too smart, I think. What is he doing down here being the legal adviser to the CIO? If he's as smart as he says he is, and is a first-rank Harvard Law man, why doesn't he go get himself a good job and practice law for a while, instead of giving so much advice to trade unions. It doesn't seem natural for a young man.”

“Oh, well, but he's interested in these things. He wants to give his life to these things. He wants to help.”