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the San Francisco police certainly didn't have any idea of that in their investigation.” Of course, this man didn't know anything about the San Francisco police investigation because it hadn't ne ant anything to him. He wasn't in the port of San Francisco.

“He says he knows that and that he saw him paying his dues to the Communist party. He also says he knows a man who drove him to a meeting of the Communist party.”

I said, “Well, what have you done about it?” He said, “I've told him to bring it in in the form of evidence, get an affidavit, or give an affidavit himself, or bring in the man who drove him to a Communist meeting and get him to make an affidavit.”

There was no crime about being a Communist at that time, but the immigration law, which this man was concerned with, said that among taose who have entered this country and are deportable are not only those who have become public charges or who have committed a crime, but those who teach or belong to an organization which aims at the overthrow of the government by force and violence. Whether the Communist party taught the overthrow of the government by force and violence, or was arranging for the overthrow of the government by force and violence, has always been a disputed point, at least it was at that time. In general





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