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justified on the ground that that's the natural result of competition. The ones who are declining are inefficient, although there is a difference of opinion as to whether they are truly inefficient or just running into bad luck on the financial side and not on the operating side. However, sloan would always say it was inefficient.

So Johnson had not been met with great success. He'd been met with a lot of sweet words, such as, “We'll study the situation,” and so forth, but nothing else. So Johnson was I think surprised and pleased at the appearance of this group of about twenty or thirty people - not more than that - who said they were automobile workers. So he took them right in He was more cordial than perhaps the circumstances really warranted, but he was very cordial. e was in that kind of a mood that day. He told them that they were the finest people he had ever met, and so forth. He said it was something wonderful when a group of working men would come down to Washington and asked for a code. It all justified in his mind the value and valldity of this system of the revival of industry by code agreements. Here were working men who wanted a code. Here were men with grievances who thought that the code would assist them in their grievances.

Then he began to ask them about their grievances.