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They went all over it for him again, which they'd been over with us in the morning. They told him all their grievances, and with each grievance that they laid out, Johnson would have something to say - that was a shame, that was wrong, these things should not be, and so on. I don't think he really realized that he was dealing with a group of people who were not organized and upon each of whom his words were going to make a special personal impression. Each of them would interpret his words as they thought the words meant.

Johnson then took charge of them. He said, “You ought to have an organization. You can't do anything unless you have an organization. You've got to have somebody, a head, a president, a chairman. If you have a chairman, then you can do something.”

By this time they had begun to think that they were very important. Of course, they were. They had come spontaneously and however vague their knowledge was they had a right feeling about it, They had had grievances and there was no machinery for adjusting their grievances. Well, they wanted to see the President. Johnson told them that if they would perfect an organization, he would take tnem in to see the President, and the President would kind of bless this organization. My memory is that he