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We had never heard of anything like this agent provocateur and secret agency operating apparently on his own. Shaughnessy and others in the Immigration Service never had either. They weren't familiar with and had never utilized that kind of evidence. It had never come up in any other immigration case. Milner seemed like a very strange and peculiar individual to do this sort of thing.

At this point I begin to remember again not very clearly what the sequence of events was. However, we decided that, of course, this evidence being before us, we must examine it. The usual procedure would have been on evidence just like this to examine the accused in supplementary proceedings. He had a right to do that. That's the usual procedure under the immigration act. We would examine him and would ask him questions which would tend to give him the opportunity to dispute, or to contradict, or to offer evidence in contradiction of this evidence that we had.

However, we all felt that this evidence that came from Bonham, resting upon this man who admitted himself to be an agent provocateur and who admitted and had told Bonham that he was all mixed up with these Communists, and about whom we had already learned that he had in another case given perjured testimony, was such that it