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I said, “Well, you know, we hire mediators and conciliators for $3000 a year. They can do a better job than you do, Mr. President, with all due respect for your talents.”

He didn't realize that he had to do the technical job that you have to do when you come to conciliate or mediate without having either the background or the time a conciliator has. A conciliator doesn't make a proposal like suggesting that there be a tri-partite board right off the bat. He works around to it after a lot of talk and canvassing. He eventually gets it out of somebody as a suggestion from one of the parties.

But the President just threw this suggestion out. Johnson, whose tendency was to take every word of the President's as though it was pure gospel and a proclamation that all men had to bow to, at once looked very solemn and said that was a brilliant idea, that it would solve the problem, that he would be very glad to put it into effect, and that he was sure these men would too, wouldn't they? They applauded him.

The President blessed them, but of course didn't bring the thing to any conclusion. Then Johnson took them out into another room. He said, “You heard what the President said. You've got to organize. You've got to