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organization, a leader, and so forth.

Then the President had one of his bright ideas that used to come to him at times. He suggested that if they didn't have any machinery for adjusting grievances, they ought to set up some. He would be perfectly willing to appoint a grievance board in the automobile industry. There would have to be somebody representing the workers, somebody representing the employers, and then somebody else that the Secretary of Labor or Johnson would appoint. Wouldn't that be a good idea? The workers could come before that board with any grievances they might have.

This was the President's spontaneous idea - at least I think it was spontaneous. I certainly didn't suggest it to him and I don't think that Johnson had had an opportunity to suggest it to him, although he may have. It was a natural idea for the President to have. He entered into every situation that came before him. At that time, early in '33, be was more likely to enter into them completely than he was later on after he had been stung two or three times. He entered in so completely. I used to say to him, “You act as though you were a mediator in these strikes. You like to get right into them.”

He said, “Well, that's what I am.”