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was awfully good and decent. He was very slow, very calm.

I sent up at once my formal application to be heard, but I also telephoned to him. He was very polite over the telephone. After all, he was a Southern Congressman and he would be very polite, would never be disturbed, very very flattering to you - “Everybody has the greatest confidence in you, Miss Perkins. It's very unfortunate, but these things will happen. Passions are inflamed. At any rate, the Judiciary Committee will give it very serious consideration, I assure you. I will see that nothing that is improper is introduced into our proceedings. It will all be very carefully done.” Well, that was that. That was one conversation.

From that time on I suppose I called two or three times a week, saying, “I desire to be heard, Mr. Congressman. I must be heard! I must appear before this committee.”

“Well, I don't think the time is quite ripe. I don't think this is the right time. I think it should go a little longer. The committee hasn't really had an opportunity to study this matter.”

Of course, I came to realize that he was playing a delaying game, which made me very nervous. It didn't bode any good to me to have a delaying game played. That was the way I felt about it. I felt that I knew all the