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minutes or so. It wasn't awfully long, but of course it seemed like hours. Finally a clerk came out and said that the committee were ready and that Mr. Reilly could come. The anteroom was a very large room, a long, narrow room. The door opened into the hearing room. The hearing room was very large. Of course, there wasn't anybody in it except the committee. Even the clerk had been told that he couldn't come back. They were sitting around a big horseshoe on a very high dais, one of those very high ones, with a high mahogany panelling in front of them. Mr. Hatton Sumners, sitting at the head, who is very small, was almost hidden. I could hardly see his head above this enormous mahogany panelling. The others were sitting around. The light was such that you could hardly see their faces. The room was so long, the distances were so so great, that I could hardly make out clearly the individuals. Of course, they were all behind this heavy panelling, and all you saw were heads. The light was such that I never did really get a good look at the faces of the men who sat near the window because the light was behind them. That made their faces somewhat in the darkness. I knew where Hatton Sumnors sat so I knew that he was the little round head that I saw in the center.