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so on - that they would have to work Saturday afternoon. That was all right. Everybody was willing to. We went on and on.

We had a number of very unsettled points. I remember that old Judge Connor said something interesting to me when we came back from lunch. We had broken for lunch that day and had lunch together, with labor men and management sitting at the same table. That sort of broke the ice. We did that at all the conferences. Another technique to break the ice is to send out for coffee and sandwiches. I had that down to a technique. Whenever they got so that they couldn't agree on something, I would ring a little bell and send out for coffee and sandwiches. They would appear as though by a miracle from the cafeteria. Sometimes I'd add apple pie or a piece of chocolate cake. Good coffee was always available.

This particular Saturday we went to lunch and I said, “We'll all save time if we go down to the cafeteria in the building.” So we did and distributed ourselves at small tables in the little executive dining room. We had a chat and pleasantness and came back to work.

As we came back Judge Connor said to me, “These employers are very, very anxious to get home for Sunday.”

I said, “Well, Judge Connor, you know how anxious