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of the working man, feeling more wrought up over it.” He made a little speech on that.

Anyhow, I told him that I wouldn't ask the President to change his mind and that I agreed with the President. It was a very painful interview.

Then he began a kind of barrage of letters to the President from people whom he could get to write a letter. There were a good many trade unionists who wrote letters to say, “Edwin Smith should be reappointed.”

In the meantime, I went ahead and got other people to take his place. At any rate, Edwin Smith went out when his time expired in August 1941. The President did not change his mind, nor did the letters change his mind. When I say a barrage, I don't mean a great flock of letters, because he couldn't raise that many, but it was a considerable number of letters, and a little bit of publicity - a few pieces in the paper about how Edwin Smith had been so good and shouldn't be let go. But he was let go, and as I say it was a very unpleasant duty on my part to have to tell him.

When Edwin Smith left in 1941, Gerard Reilly was appointed to replace him. He had been the Solicitor of the Department of Labor.