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However, I'm almost sure that my conversation with the President about Mrs. Roosevelt and Wallace was all one call. Of course, she wouldn't know some of this because the President expressly told me not to let Eleanor know I had talked to him about it, that being the way of married folk with each other - not to press. I'm positive that my talk with the President was all one, that I talked with him about his coming, that he suggested that perhaps Eleanor would go, that I said that wouldn't do the trick and that he had to come, that he suggested again that Eleanor go, that he said, “Ask her, but don't let her know you've talked with me, but tell her to consult with me about it, or that you think I'd be willing,” and that he then raised the Henry Wallace matter. He raised it, I didn't. I had just called him to tell him that things were ugly and that he should come.

The convention was primarily ugly about Roosevelt, and the later ugliness about Wallace was a transfer. They were ugly about Roosevelt. Then after Roosevelt was nominated, when it was announced that he wanted Wallace, they then got a second infliction of bad feeling - “Oh, he not only wants to be nominated himself, out he wants to pick his own man. He doesn't want to leave that to the convention. He doesn't want to let us have