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to the President's desk. He called the President right then and said, “Frances tells me you've made up your mind you want Wallace.”

The President said, “Yes, that's right. Don't you think that's best?” or something of that sort. I didn't hear his end of it.

“All right,” said Harry, “we'll do that. I just wanted the word. I think that's all right and I think we can do it.”

Within ten minutes he gave out the news that the President had indicated that he would be glad to have Henry Wallace nominated for Vice President. It was as quick as that. It makes you laugh when you think how quickly and how informally these things are done. Hopkins then informed Wallace. That was that.

Glancing at Mrs. Roosevelt's book, This I Remember, I see that on page 214 she more or less corroborates the story I have just told, except that she doesn't know that I spoke to the President before I called her. She says that she told me she didn't think that she should go because she didn't see what she could do, but that I ought to call the President. Then she says that I called her the next day, after having spoken to the President, during which call he came out for Wallace.