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head and said, “Oh, no, Frances, he doesn't need me any more. He has Harry.”

I said, “What do you mean?”

“Well, he doesn't need my advice any more. He doesn't ask it. Harry tells him everything he needs to know.”

I realized with a flash that she was jealous for the first time in her life. Her attachment to the President was not the usual wifely attachment. It was the maternal attachment. She wanted to advise him and he was getting his advice from Harry. He was talking things over with Harry. He was getting a point of view from Harry. He didn't need Mrs. R's point of view.

Mrs. R., of course, had a point of view which at that time had not developed beyond the needs of the poor and the desire of the people for peace and happiness. There was no global concept at all. In fact, war was possible. She was as near pacifist as one can be and still be a realist. She was a realist.

The duality of Harry's personality had already begun to develop. He got interested in these diplomatic and political situations which might lead to war and which did lead to war. He got interested in the problem of what our relationship to the war should be, could be and how it could be brought about. Harry was very