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were concerned about that. The NRA had agricultural as well as industrial overtones to it, because the codes adopted for certain industries, notably textile industries, which was the first code adopted, impinged in more ways than one upon the raw cotton market, which of course hooked right back into the agricultural problem. So when we were discussing the cotton textile code, I saw a good deal incidentally of George Peek and Henry Wallace. They were not long drawn-out conferences, but just because they would be involved and you would talk to them about it.

I think it was during that period that I ran into Wickard. I don't seem to remember him knowing much about the cotton market, but I seem to remember hearing about him. He came in under the AAA and was in their corn-hog section, as I remember. In that new organization of the AAA there were a lot of people who thought in terms of economics and who were concerned about the effect of the NRA upon agricultural economics. So the references that I heard to Wickard would be in that indirect way. It was just that somebody would say, “There's a fellow Wickard over there. Ask Wickard. See if Wickard knows about that.” It was that kind of thing. Whether Wickard thought or talked in economic terms, or not, I don't know, except as it related to