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So I didn't have that same feeling about Wickard. I didn't feel that I could comment to him about what Jesse Jones said, or what Hull said, or what Henry Morgenthau said. Henry Morgenthau was always giving himself airs in the agricultural field, because he had been to an agricultural college and his economics was based on George Warren who was a specialist in agriculture that Henry Wallace might comment on. I didn't quite feel like doing that with Wickard. After all, he hadn't been with us from the beginning. I don't think I ever got into the note passing business with Wickard, but I certainly later on got into the comment business with Wickard, because he was very alert and interested and he didn't always understand what they were talking about, which was natural because he had just come in to a picture where the discussions had been going on three or four years. Nobody bothered to illuminate the new member as to what had gone before what they were saying now.

He would whisper to me, “Did I hear what Morgenthau said? Did he say this?” Morgenthau always spoke in a very low voice.

I would say, “Yes, that's what he said.”

“Well, did the President authorize that?”