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Getting back to Wickard, I think he was well-linked. It may be, now that I think of it, that they found him a little tedious in some of the details of his agricultural operations. I found those details interesting because they were new to me. I got more information from him about agricultural problems that I ever did from Henry Wallace.

Another thing that I noticed about Wickard was a very great admiration for Wallace. I assumed that it was based on a long friendship and a rather deep under-standing. We talked about Wallace once in a while. I said that what I thought was rather an essential element of Wallace's nature was his intuitive religious under-standing and religious feeling. I said that I thought the key to his nature was his deep religious conviction and his deep religious feeling. I said, “Don't you think so?”

He said, “I guess so. I guess I've got about the same kind of religion that Wallace has.”

I remember saying to myself, “You certainly haven't. You don't know that I'm talking about.” What I gathered that Wickard meant was that he had the average American view of religion, that you do your duty by your neighbors, tell the truth, keep your hands clean, be kind to the poor,