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do the right thing by the neighbors and that that's religion. That's of course, not what I meant, and not what I meant by Henry Wallace's having a deep religious conviction and deep religious experience. When Wickard said, “I guess I've got about the same kind of religion that Wallace has, I realized then that Wickard didn't know Wallace well enough to know that he had a religious pattern. He saw him as a good man, who behaved well, did things that were honorable and for the right purpose, was kind to the neighbors, and so forth, but he didn't know what I was talking about.

I first thought that Wickard meant that he belonged to the same religious affiliation, that he was an Episcopalian. Then I discovered he wasn't. I thought he might mean that.

I realized, though, that he had a great admiration for Wallace and he expressed on that occasion his great admiration. He said that he thought Wallace was one of the greatest men in the country, one of the most profound thinkers, a man of brilliance and ability and everything one should be. It was an affectionate admiration.

I don't know if people expected Wickard to be another Wallace. I never heard anything like that. Certainly Wickard never had any enemies that I can recall around