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think he's a very good travel writer, period. I guess he's a good justice, for all I know. I'm sure he's a good lawyer and he'd make a perfectly good member of the Supreme Court, but he's no political thinker at all, nor is he a practical administrator.

It was just worse than nothing, having those hearings before him. I remember that Wickard came to one of those conferences before Douglas. None of us ever had a good say. It was Harold Smith who pulled the strings of Douglas's mind and we got the War Manpower Commission. Even the name is terrible. I was angry about that. It struck me as being the greatest farce I ever say, and a most ridiculous and unnecessary project. It was all Harold Smith's idea and Byrnes, of course, joined in with him. I realize now that Byrnes was building an empire and had political ambitions then, but at the time I didn't realize it.

Wickard and I served on a committee that was formed by the President. William H. Davis the chairman of the War Labor Board which decided disputes was on it. R.A. Goldenweiser used to come to it, the economist who just died (1953). Marriner Eccles used to come to it. I think Wallace on it. I know Wickard was on it. It was one of the most interesting committees. I'm not yet





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