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It wasn't that the President was consulting the Cabinet, I don't think. He was just trying it on the dog. After Cabinet meeting there was a considerable buzz-buzz around between us that it was a bright idea to have a good Republican. I remember that the only question I had was the one that John Garner had raised, “Do we know that he is the kind of a man who will stand by and be absolutely loyal to the President, because there are many problems in a bipartisan administration?”

What went through Franklin Roosevelt's mind and what previous motions he had made to find out if Knox would do it or not, I don't know, but he must have had somebody in contact with Knox. I doubt if it was Ickes, but I think it was somebody else. Certainly the President had an intermediary in this. I was very sure that the President had consulted Henry Stimson about Knox. Everybody knew Henry Stimson. Henry Stimson had as fine a reputation in all circles as nearly anyone.

After Dern died Harry Woodring had been appointed Secretary of War. Woodring had been Governor of Kansas. I never knew why he was appointed. He was really a pretty good man, but I never knew what the political or other considerations were that led to his appointment. It became obvious that he was very political,





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