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It's a very expensive and shattering thing to pull a bureau out of one place and put it somewhere else. It's a dread-fully expensive and time-consuming thing. All kinds of people have to reorganize their methods of work, their papers, their personnel. It's a terrible job. The agency doesn't get to working smoothly for at least a couple of years. In the meantime there are always leftovers that don't get taken care of by anybody. When a bureau has been long in one department, it does get meshed up with the other bureaus, and the lines aren't perfectly clear, nor should they be. There are matters that are related to several bureaus. In that they overlap, of course, but they overlap without duplicating each other's work. They each have some interest, we'll say, in the field of child labor. Some have it for children. Some have it for labor. Some have it for guarding machinery. All right, you don't have to set up a new Division of Machinery Guarding in the Children's Bureau, because you just use the accumulated knowledge and sort of translate it and modify it for its application to children.

People in my department thought that he was trying to kill the Department of Labor. Some of them were out on the warpath after him. There was never much public protest on the part of the Women's Bureau, the Children's Bureau, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Employment Service, and so