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knowing about it. So if you saw things going too flibity gibity, that could be reported to the President or somebody else in time to stop any seriously wrong thing from being done. You just had to fit in and help with the least con-fusion and the least fighting possible.

I always felt, as I've said, that the Department of Labor could have planned better and quicker, and at less expense, We already had a lot of the planning done, which we handed right over to them. We handed over everything that we had already corralled, every idea we had. I must say that we had great success. If you were thinking as a woman thinks about her success in her own family, you would have said you succeeded just fine. You don't have the prestige and you don't ask for that. But what you thought ought to be done, got done, by one device or another. You kept your-self in a friendly relationship. That is, I did, and most of our people in the Labor Department did. Dan Tracy was wonderful at that. We stayed in that friendly relation-ship so that we were able to put before them the things they ought to do. Insofar as they were good things, and they were mostly good things, OPM picked them right up and did them. Even if they hadn't originated them, Hillman's outfit would pick up our ideas and would carry them out. They