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bringing in new people to operate Title II. He couldn't operate Title II, so he said, through the existing members of the Bureau of the Budget, who were all trained to just study figures, to work on estimates, to work on budgets, to cut out and add, to see how to keep the budget down, not letting it extend beyond a certain amount. They were not imaginative with regard to getting greater efficiency by modern techniques of personnel, modern techniques of training, modern techniques of cooperation, coordination of parts, and reorganization.

So he brought in a lot of people to operate Title II who were men who had been trained in a variety of places, largely springing from these schools of government administration - business administration even, but geovernment primarily, because that's so much easier than business. No one ever knows in government whether you're right or wrong. You can teach that just like nothing at all. I can teach it. Anybody could teach it. There's nobody to prove whether you're right or wrong. Schools of government administration had sprung up in some universities, not all universities.

During the period of the New Deal Lucius N. Littauer gave a sum to Harvard to establish a School of Government Administration at Harvard. There had previously been established, of course, a good many years before the School of Business Administration. Mr. Lttauer and some of his advisers had been impressed with that and were interested in