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that you're interested in.”

“Well, I suppose that's true. But I never imagined that a labor leader would have any such tastes.”

Anyhow, she was greatly impressed. I remember at least one or two other occasions when I invited him to dinner. I think I've told you the occasion when I asked him to come to my house when I was trying to patch up the quarrel between him and William Green. That was a most painful occasion. But still, he was perfectly courteous to me. It was painful, and he certainly didn't agree to the suggestion I made, but I never called that being disagreeable--I mean, it was my duty to make the suggestion, it was my duty to urge it, and he saw it as his duty to decline, and that was that.

But I did really cherish his friendship. He went out of his way to come to the farewell dinner that was given for me here when I left the Department of Labor. On a number of occasions he showed a confidence in me, and told me certain thing, without a promise that I would not repeat them or let them be known, but with a perfectly frank straightforward look into your eyes that made you know he meant “I trust you not to spread this news.” And I never did. He had confidence in me, and I think he defended me in a number of labor conferences as being a trustworthy person. He had tried trusting me and found it would work.

Of course I talked with him about the Pressman affair,





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