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that Lewis went into had to be right. It had to be good. He was loyal to it. He believed in it, this Committee.
Then he went on the floor of the convention, you see, at this famous occasion over in Atlantic City, and all the proposals were made. He made the proposals. No question about it, he made the open public proposals. But when I say that Hillman thought up the plan, I think he did, and I think that Hillman even put Lewis up to making an outright split with the A.F. of L. then, on that occasion.
Hillman, with his nostrils expanding, said in my office, “We've given them their chance! We given them their chance! They don't come along. What should we do, lie down like cravens?”
It was that sort of situation. But Lewis was the floor strong man who could carry the ball, you see, and overcome his colleagues. Hillman, you see, to his dying day spoke with a very thick South Russian accent, and it always made him conspicuous in a meeting of the A.F. of L., and also made him disliked. That was horrid, but it was the reaction of the good North American of Irish and German extraction, which the other people were. They didn't like that kind of an accent, and they sort of looked out of the corner of their eye at Hillman when he spoke like that. Lewis, therefore, was a much better defender on the floor. Also, he could make
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