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them tremble--I mean, you know the kind of thing he could say. He'd make them all mad and shaky.

So, he took all the onus of the public break, but Hillman was right there beside him and behind him and with him, and handing him notes and so forth. There was no question about it that he was right in it. He didn't have any choices to make afterwards. He knew exactly what he was going to do, and so did everybody in his union, when the break was made. But Lewis carried that break, really, magnificently--and of course Hillman very wisely put Lewis up in front, or assented to his being up in front. Lewis would have taken no otherpost, of course. It would have been impossible for him to go into that Committee, except he was the top man.

Now, you haven't corrected anything that you said yesterday.

Well, I thought I made a statement that he was a very agreeable person, which I sort of thought that my later remarks had not born out. He was agreeable and he was trustworthy.

Now, you'd better amplify that, because you've said before--I think your phrase was that you could be sure he was not laying out his whole hand.