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thing that stands out most about that march was the famous “I have a dream” speech, that people are still talking about, even though in some of it might be still a nightmare.

Did you hear of any episodes of violence in that march?

Not that I can recall, no. I'm sure you couldn't have a quarter of a million without an occasional flare of temper. But that certainly was not what was presented by the press.

Did A. Philip Randolph ever talk to you, either before you went to Europe or after the march took place about he got the leadership to amalgate for the march?

I don't know that A. Philip Randolph did, but I think maybe Bayard did, in telling me about his role, and some of the people who worked with Bayard. From what I recall, it was sort of a praiseworthy role that he played. There was a committee, I think, of individuals who determined who was going to speak and who was not going to speak and things of that sort. I recally somebody telling me (I don't recall who it was) that there was some question about John Lewis' presentation, some committee editing of some of the things that he was going to say. But again, these are all second hand. I must say to you that I'm glad it went off well and it did have a positive public relations impact. It might have some impact in terms of generating civil rights legislation. Certainly the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was rather close behind the march. Whether it was