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the editors in the place.

He didn't have any visible weaknesses, except Martinis. But in those days he could drink the Martinis, and they'd seem to have absolutely no effect. He had two Martinis for lunch every day of his life, and I never saw him blink once in the afternoon.

Extraordinary. I used to drink two Martinis, but I had to give it up when I was forty-five, because they affect me. He still does! But they aren't as kind to him now as they were then. [laughter]

Well, what was his--if, according to you, the imprint of Henry Luce as editor-in-chief was certainly a certain political influence number one; number two, there was that famous Time style, you know, the style of writing and what the objectives of news magazines would be. What was the imprint of Donovan in all those years?

Well--

Hold on just one second.

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Today is the 3rd of February, 1987. This is Jessica Holland with Andrew Heiskell. We're at 870 U.N. Plaza, New York City. Go ahead.

He was very good at picking editors. He was very good at realizing that acquiring talent was a key factor. It was a key factor. As a matter of fact, we even had so-called “Donovan Scholars.” These were people that we would hire and train and, hope,