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was offering them patronage jobs. He couldn't get any members and so he sort of faded away, which will lead us to the district leadership race in '63. But in any event, he then was selected by Chester Bowles to go to India as some kind of a commercial attache or something or other. I was asked about that, and I said, “Well, Lanigan is the only one I know who is capable of delivering the Indians into the hands of the Red Chinese.”

Now, I saw Lanigan in the last two years. Actually running for reelection in the last Congressional campaign, I'm walking up First Avenue and I'm handing out literature and I hand it to a couple coming out of a package liquor store, didn't take any great note of their appearance except they looked a little seedy. I said, “I'm Ed Koch,” and this voice said, “I know you're Ed Koch. Cast your mind back. Think as to whether or not you know me” or words to that effect. He had a very distinctive voice, sort of a gravelly voice. And as soon as he opened his mouth I said, “Jim Lanigan.” And we shook hands, and he was so seedy looking, and here he is coming out of a liquor store, and I'm not crazy about people who are alcoholics and I think that he was. I can understand the problem, but I just don't relate well to them. All of the anger that I had sort of dissipated and I didn't care about it anymore.

I've seen him one other time. I hand out literature every morning that I'm not in Washington, and one day there in the fifties, as I remember, he passes by and he says, “Are you still