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complainers, which was good. We were always encouraging the unions to do that. That was always the burden of the speech I made at the annual meeting, and was always one of the things I said - “Please remember that we want to hear reports. If your people know of violations of the law, we want to be informed. Nobody's name will be revealed. You tell us and we'll send our inspectors to find the facts.” We had a very simple little pamphlet prepared for the unions to give out to their members telling them what the hours law, what the machine guarding law was, and telling them to report if there were any violations. The unions sometimes used it.

Dubinsky was one of the principal users of it. He was always reporting things. That was his way of organizing. He would get a factory inspector down there. No manufacturer wants to see the factory inspector coming. Dubinsky's members also would have courage enough to tell the inspector the truth.

In many places where we went in the inspector couldn't get from the workers, if he didn't see them working after posted hours, that they had come in early that morning, that they had worked more than ten hours a day. They wouldn't say that although the posted hours were 9 to 7, let's say, they had come in at seven o'clock. They were