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Roosevelt. The trick was to get them to meet him, get them to be well-disposed. I always used to do a lot of that kind of thing - gathering them in, helping arrange meetings among labor people not where I spoke, but where some body who would be acceptable to them would speak.

That's when I became acquainted with Edward Edwards. He was a printer. He was extremely useful. We had him on the Roosevelt for Governor campaign committee. He was an officer of the State Federation of Labor and was very good. Most of the State Federation of Labor people, or many of them, were bona fide Republicans. Tim Healy was always a Republican. There were lots of officers of the State Federation of Labor who were Republicans in those days. John Sullivan and Edward Edwards were Democrats. Of course there were others too. Edward Edwards did some very fine work. He made a very good speech. He could be counted on to speak to any kind of a labor group meeting and make an effective speech about Roosevelt.

One of the things I was doing was trying to find some small groups to talk to at labor temples, labor halls, the regular monthly meeting of the local labor unions. I was trying to get speakers in there. Rose Schneiderman, of course, was awfully good. She couldn't be sent outside of New York City much, but she could be sent into almost anything