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Senator from Missouri. He was the oratorical type too. It was from speaking with him around the state and around that area that I learned to pronounce Missouri - “My own Mizzoura” he used to say, way down deep in the lungs. I had always called Missouri, as we did in New England in our ignorant way. I have never since then failed to call it Mizzoura. That's the way it's pronounced.

He adored Misouri. You could feel this love of state within him. Eppes Hawes was a much more sophisticated type than her husband who was awfully canny politically, but not sophisticated in all kinds of other ways. Eppes was on to people's numbers. She knew how to judge politicians and she knew how to judge other people who weren't politicians. She had a good campaign laid out for us, I remember. We had two immediate meetings in St. Louis.

I was in St. Louis, either that time or some other time, when Al Smith came through and held his meetings. We spoke at two preparatory meetings for Al Smith. That was our principal engagement in St. Louis. They were to different groups. One was exclusively to a woman's group at noon or early afternoon in some hotel. These were the people who were getting up the meeting, getting people to come to it and so forth. The other was to a mixed group of citizens